Carrie Gracie: I feel angry about some of the things I've seen and heard

The BBC's former China editor Carrie Gracie became emotional as she told MPs she felt "angry" about what people were going through as they fought for equal pay.

Gracie, who resigned as the BBC's China editor in a row over unequal pay, fought back tears as she gave evidence to the Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee at the House of Commons.

Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee
Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee

She recounted the effect the situation has had on her mental health, recalling how when she received an inaccurate account of a grievance she had filed she "went to bed for two days and thought 'I can't do it, this is too big'".

She said: "The mental health issues that Michelle (Stanistreet) talks about people facing, the strain of being in conflict and the delays and the obfuscation and the opacity and the belittling of your work because that is what has to happen if they are not going to concede, they are going to have to crush your self-esteem about your work so that is very painful. I found all of that really hard.

"I feel very angry about what they (the BBC) have put some other people through, I feel angry about some of the things I've seen and heard and some of the women and the suffering they have gone through, it's not funny.

"All of these women have been underpaid, I believe, for years."

Carrie Gracie resignation
Carrie Gracie resignation

She earlier spoke of what she said was a "toxic work atmosphere" and warned BBC management saying: " It is going to get worse, we have women leaving, the credibility of management is diminished and damaged and they will lose in employment tribunals.

"They are stumbling towards a Greek tragedy where they make happen their own worst fears. They need to stop now, pull up and trust their staff."

Early on in the session, Gracie told how she had been earning £135,000 before the BBC offered her a £45,000 rise, which she rejected.

She said she had received results of a grievance last week and that the BBC had said it had inadvertently underpaid her since 2014.

Heartfelt, compelling words from @BBCCarrie at @CommonsCMS select committee. Thank you Carrie for speaking so clearly about pay injustice. Will spur change not just @BBC but for all women at work.

-- Harriet Harman (@HarrietHarman) January 31, 2018

Gracie said the BBC had not described her pay discrepancy as gender pay discrimination.

She said: "They have said it was not gender pay discrimination, they haven't called it pay discrimination either.

"I'm not an employment lawyer but it sounds to me like a tacit admission that it is pay discrimination in that they want to pay me now nearly £100,000 in back pay.

"The thing that is very unacceptable to me is they have basically said in the previous years 2014, 2015, 2016, I was in development.

"It is an insult to add to the original injury. It is unacceptable to talk to your senior women like that. I would have never agreed to China on those terms."

The BBC was forced, last summer, to reveal the salaries of all stars earning more than £150,000 a year.

Gracie was not on the list, while other international editors were.

Arqiva British Academy Television Awards - Arrivals - London
Arqiva British Academy Television Awards - Arrivals - London

North America editor Jon Sopel was in the £200,000 to £249,999 bracket while Middle East editor Jeremy Bowen earned between £150,000 and £199,999.

It has since been revealed that Sopel, alongside other broadcasters John Humphrys, Huw Edwards, Nicky Campbell, Nick Robinson, and Jeremy Vine, has taken a pay cut.

Humphrys was criticised after a leaked tape showed him joking with Sopel about Gracie and the gender pay gap.

A review, commissioned by the BBC and published on Tuesday, found there was "no evidence of gender bias in pay decision-making".


BBC Director-General Tony Hall will also be appearing before the committee.

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