Here's how Lloyds Banking Group PLC and Barclays PLC could double your money

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I really can't figure out why the entire FTSE 100 banking sector is so lowly valued right now.

Sure, I can see real risks for HSBC Holdings and Standard Chartered with their massive exposure to Asia and no idea what toxic debt they might be left with if China really implodes. Around 80% of their turnover comes from the Asian region and I can understand why their shares are on forecast P/E ratios of between eight and nine for this year.

And it makes sense seeing Royal Bank of Scotland out of favour. It's been so much slower than its rivals to turn its back on the crisis and it might only just manage a tiny dividend this year.

They're not all bad...

But when I see Lloyds Banking Group(LSE: LLOY), on a forecast P/E of only 7.6 for the current year, with its dividend already expected to be back to a 5.1% yield, I shake my head in bewilderment. And I'm stymied when I try to understand a 2016 P/E as low as 6.2 for Barclays(LSE: BARC) while it has strong earnings growth on the cards. Dividends aren't as good as at Lloyds yet, but the 3.6% yield forecast for this year still beats the FTSE average, and with mooted 2016 dividend cover at more than three times I wouldn't be surprised to see 5% in 2017.

The lastest share prices, of 61p for Lloyds and 161p for Barclays, put the two banks on lower valuations than HSBC and Standard Chartered, yet neither has anything like the same Asian exposure.

And Lloyds is on a lower valuation than fellow bailed-out struggler RBS. Although the 0.4% dividend yield expected from RBS is negligible compared to Lloyds' 5.1%, RBS shares are on a higher P/E at just under 11. Are RBS shares really worth 50% more than Lloyds right now? I really don't see it.

But the big question is, what's a fair value for a bank?

What's a fair price?

I think it's fair to rate our big banks at a little below the long-term FTSE average of around 14 in the short term, but not a lot lower. And with the sector in a far fitter financial state than it's been for decades, that average of 14 doesn't seem unreasonable in the medium term.

For Lloyds, that would suggest a share price rise of 84% to 112p. Add a few years of compounding 5% dividends through reinvestment and we'd be close to that double.

Over at Barclays, a P/E of 14 alone would need the share price to more than double to 363p by the end of 2016. With possibly greater risk of further financial penalties for various past actions, and a little uncertainty around the direction of Barclays' structural reform, I can see a slightly lower P/E for a little while. But a multiple of 12 would still see a near-doubling, and dividends would soon make up the rest.

A great opportunity

Are my guesses anywhere near the mark? Well, I'm not trying to make hard and fast predictions, but I do think that Lloyds and Barclays are the most attractive of our banks right now and are seriously undervalued. And they're being held back by the sector in general, as other banks are facing significantly more serious risks.

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Here's how Lloyds Banking Group PLC and Barclays PLC could double your money
Once you have opened a current account with a bank or other lender, you will get a steady flow of emails, letters (and maybe phone calls) offering you a savings account, loan, mortgage, ISA etc to go with it. But while it may be tempting to have everything in one place, it's better to do the legwork and shop around for the best financial products. You can compare interest rates on loans and savings accounts in the 'best buy' tables in the newspapers, or look online on comparison sites. Remember you can still easily transfer your money between accounts, even if they are not with the same financial institution. 
Whether you want to apply for a new mortgage or refinance an existing one, your bank will probably be very happy to give you an instant quote in the hope that you will go with them. They may not tell you that you can shop around at other lenders. A mortgage broker can give you an overview of the best interest rates on offer, and might be able to cut you an even better deal him/herself. 

Want to cash in your jars of change that are sitting on your shelves at home? Many banks are not very keen on coins. They often only take it from their own customers. You will have to sort it into different denominations and put the coins in the bank's bags in set amounts (for example, £1 for coppers, £5 for silver, etc). Some banks only take a limited number of bags a day, or won't take any at busy times. Others take a different view: HSBC has free coin deposit machines in many larger branches where you pour your jar of coins into the machine and it counts them and automatically credits your account. Barclays, NatWest and RBS also have machines in large branches in city centres.

Bank employees now have a duty to point out that they only advise on the bank's products and don't offer independent financial advice. What they won't tell you is that even the advice they give you about the bank's own products should be treated cautiously. Bank staff are often undertrained, underpaid and overworked. (You could ask for the employee's qualifications before getting advice.) So do your own research and/or find an independent financial adviser.

Nothing is set in stone. Your bank won't tell you this, but sometimes it will waive a fee, for example an overdraft or an ATM fee, depending on the circumstances. You have nothing to lose by asking, if you can argue persuasively why they should waive the fee. Citizens Advice says your bank should treat you sympathetically if you can show financial hardship.

As stated in the previous slide, some things are negotiable – such as interest rates or waiving fees – if you can make a good case for it. In that instance, talking to an employee in person is better than filling in a form online.

If your account is overdrawn and you get paid, your bank could use this money to pay off your overdraft without your permission. However, you have a right to ask them not to do this so you can pay your rent or mortgage first. This is called first right of appropriation. You have to ask your bank in writing, and you'll need to write to them with new instructions every time money gets paid into your account. Make sure you write 'first right of appropriation' in your letter.

If money is mistakenly credited to your account, your bank or building society can recover the money, assuming they do this within a reasonable time. But you may be allowed to keep the money, for example if you didn't realise the bank had made a mistake and spent the money in good faith. You would have to prove that you spent it in such a way that it would be unfair to ask you to pay it back. You can complain to the Financial Ombudsman if you think your lender is being unfair in asking you to repay the money.


If you do have to pay it back, you could try to reach an agreement with your bank to pay it back in instalments without interest being added.

The Financial Ombudsman Service has more advice on what happens when payments have been credited to the wrong account. If you did something wrong - for example, by entering the wrong account number - rather than the bank, the Financial Ombudsman may still uphold your complaint. They consider whether the financial institution made it clear to the consumer that only the bank sort code and account number are used to process the payment, rather than the name of the payee. They will also ask whether the lender should have realised that the consumer had made mistake, and once the problem came to light, did the firm take reasonable steps to try to get the money back from the recipient.

If too much is deducted from your account, your lender may have to refund the full amount of the payment. For example, if the money is taken through a direct debit or credit card payment for a hotel room or car rental. When deciding whether the debit was reasonable, the bank or building society will take into account your previous spending pattern. But the bank doesn't have to refund the payment if you agreed the amount beforehand or were informed of the payment by your lender at least four weeks before.

If you don't have enough money in your account to cover a direct debit payment, your bank may not make the payment. It doesn't have to tell you that the payment hasn't been made, so the onus is on you to keep checking your account. If, on the other hand, the payment goes through, you may be charged for an unauthorised overdraft.

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